10. RAMAPO CATSKILL LIBRARY - SITE PLAN - 619 Route 17M (36-2-59)
#080-003
D. Yanosh: We received a variance from the Zoning Board of
Appeals for a ten by twenty four addition.
G. Lake: Let me go through the Board.
A. Dulgarian: I have no problems. They made him jump through
hoops for something for something that has very little impact.
It has no major impact on anything. I have no problems with
it.
P. Owen: No problems.
R. Carr: No problems.
G. Luenzmann: No problems.
G. Monaco: No problems.
T. Hamilton: No problems.
MOTION for a NEGATIVE DECLARATION made by A. Dulgarian and
seconded by G. Luenzmann.
A. Dulgarian: Aye
P. Owen: Aye
R. Carr: Aye
T. Hamilton: Aye
G. Monaco: Aye
G. Luenzmann: Aye
G. Lake: Aye
MOTION CARRIED. 7 AYES
MOTION for SITE PLAN approval subject to Dick's comments made
by A. Dulgarian and seconded by P. Owen.
A. Dulgarian: Aye
P. Owen: Aye
R. Carr: Aye
T. Hamilton: Aye
G. Monaco: Aye
G. Luenzmann: Aye
G. Lake: Aye
MOTION CARRIED. 7 AYES
11. WEINER - MEDICAL OFFICE BUILDING - SITE PLAN/SPECIAL USE
PERMIT East Main Street (73-1-20) #043-003
A. Fusco: I represent Mr. Weiner. We're here for a dental office
on East Main Street. We did receive Dick's comments and also
the comments from the Orange County Department of Public
Works and since then we've had the opportunity to make all
of the changes that were requested. I can go over them item
by item.
G. Lake: Why don't you go right down please?
A. Fusco: The first thing is in relationship to some language
that was requested by the Orange County Department of Public
Works and we have in bold letters with the exact language that
they requested. We also are dedicating gratuitously the twenty
five feet from the centerline which they also requested.
G. Lake: Excuse me, was that the Orange County Department
of Public Works?
A. Fusco: Orange County Department of Public Works, Pat Kennedy.
G. Lake: They wanted that twenty five feet from the centerline?
A. Fusco: That's correct. And he wanted the language specific.
We had vague language so we made it exactly the way he wanted
it.
G. Lake: Did they give you that language?
A. Fusco: They gave us that language specifically. In addition
to that, they had asked as well that we label it County Route
57 as well as East Main Street which we did on every page.
We have complied with what they requested. Going to Dick's
comments, he asked for a drainage study. We had sent him one
early in the year. I gave him another one right now to make
sure that he has them. Those reflected the minimum increase
for a one, ten, and fifty year storm. One thing is that this
is .95 acres so it does come underneath the requirement of
the Department of Environmental Conservation but we did provide
the data and followed up with a plan as well. Even though it
wasn't specifically required, we did comply.
D. McGoey: Where does that drainage go in the back?
A. Fusco: It's going back just off of 84, there is a wet area
back in there. It's going to the same place it's going now.
D. McGoey: Now it all runs off directly. You're not giving
yourself any room for the stormwater. You're putting it all
in the pond and it could go on the neighboring property.
A. Dulgarian: Is that a sediment basin?
A. Fusco: Yes, it's a sediment basin. We can put a diffuser
there, will that . . .
D. McGoey: I don't know. I guess I will have to try and get
back in there.
A. Fusco: I would be happy to go back with you.
D. McGoey: You know, if I owned that property I would be a
little upset.
A. Fusco: It falls off down right down back into 84 and that's
where the drainage is really going now. The next comment was
the cutoff fixture detail for the wall mounted lights. That
is on the back page. We had submitted it in cut sheet form
but is now on the plan and it is on the rear page of the new
plan. We also put a sewer lateral detail on that last page
as well as requested.
D. McGoey: Hold it on the lights. We don't want that so it
lifts up and out. It has to be fixed.
A. Fusco: There is a sewer lateral connection shown on the
detail on the last page. This one Dick mentioned already. The
sewer discharge stormwater flows onto the lands of others and
may be a problem. What we have done is we put a level spreader
detail to show that we're going to spread it out but as Dick
said he wants to look at it. I have no issue with that. The
species and size of plants have been numerically delineated
and we did a code and a number on the second page indicating
exactly what we would be planting. We did amend it because
in accordance with Pat Kennedy he wanted to make sure that
we didn't have anything high in the front, nothing over twenty
four inches so we actually did a Spirea planting along the
front. It is listed on here. We have numerous planting's. We
did keep them small. We are keeping the existing trees. Again,
that was the wishes of Orange County Department of Public Works
that we do keep the planting's low in the front.
D. McGoey: I have an objection to that. If you're not in their
right-of-way I don't think they should be dictating what kind
of trees you put in.
A. Fusco: I don't have a problem. We did receive specific correspondence
from them. It is your pleasure, of course. We tried to comply
with their requirements. The next item was a dumpster detail.
We did detail it. It's going to be eighteen by eighteen,
six feet high. On the curb radius we did show the curb radii.
Orange County Department of Public Works had asked us to
put in a bull nose type curb which we did, one that slides
in so that it's no a danger. We did show that terminus with
a detail of a bull nose. It's also noted in #9 on Dick's
comments. The last comment we really didn't address but we
await your pleasure. The Planning Board should discuss the
need for sidewalks on East Main Street as required.
It had not been brought up before here. That, of course, would
mitigate quite a bit of the planting.
D. McGoey: There are sidewalks on the County Road already.
A. Dulgarian: There are sidewalks going toward Middletown
but I don't think there are any going the opposite way.
D. McGoey: Schutt Road has sidewalks.
A. Dulgarian: Towards the city but not the other way. I mean,
I'm a big proponent of sidewalks but I don't think it will
apply here.
R. Carr: The parking spots are so close to the road.
A. Fusco: Sidewalks wouldn't go anywhere at this point.
G. Lake: I think the problem is we should get the County back
on track with East Main Street to see what they want. The 84
bridge is right there and you may not be able to do much with
that for a sidewalk. I think we have to wait for them especially
way out there. I think it would be dangerous for a sidewalk.
A. Dulgarian: I agree. It's a little too far out.
G. Lake: I hope we can get back with the County. When we had
the Public Hearing, we tabled it and he waived his time frame.
A. Fusco: I don't specifically but I have no problem waiving
it.
G. Lake: I think that's the problem. We should have published
that as a continuation of a Public Hearing.
A. Dulgarian: Oh, was the Public Hearing still left open?
G. Lake: According to the sheet.
D. McGoey: My notes say it was closed.
G. Lake: What's that?
D. McGoey: It was closed on October 15, 2003.
A. Fusco: I would do it retro-actively so there are no issues.
G. Lake: You said the 15th of October?
D. McGoey: That's what my notes say.
G. Lake: You show that we closed it?
D. McGoey: Yes.
A. Dulgarian: I don't understand why we left that open.
G. Lake: Neither do I.
A. Fusco: I don't believe we even had anybody who commented,
as I recall. One of the things that we would like to respectfully
request is to get a Conditional Approval.
G. Lake: I'm going to poll the Board on that now to see if
they want to leave it up to Dick to check on that drainage.
Do you have a problem with that Dick?
D. McGoey: I don't have a problem. We've had enough revisions.
G. Lake: I know we have the landscaping.
D. McGoey: He did submit the plans.
A. Dulgarian: The concrete monuments they are in the county
right-of-way, yes?
A. Fusco: They are on that plan. We've moved them off in the
new plan.
A. Dulgarian: I don't have a new plan. I have an issue with
that. Dick, have you had a chance to review that plan yet?
D. McGoey: No.
A. Dulgarian: I don't know Gary. We don't have the new plan.
T. Hamilton: Where are the new plans?
A. Fusco: I have one here.
T. Hamilton: And we don't have one?
A. Fusco: We got the comments a couple of days ago so we made
the changes at that point.
A. Dulgarian: Also, before we go any further, Mechanicstown
had some questions that need to be addressed. I was just wondering
about their comment #5 about the access.
A. Fusco: I never got a copy of those comments.
A. Dulgarian: The other concerns I have here are regarding
the stormwater runoff. I know he's reviewing it but I don't
know if he has a total grip on, we're taking a lot here and
we're basically covering about ninety percent of it with either
building or blacktop. It has to increase the runoff there tremendously
especially with the creek in the back and the slope that goes
down to 84 and I'm very concerned about the amount of runoff
that's going to be added by the blacktopping and I want to
make sure that Dick has all of that under control. It seems
like an awful lot. I know we're going to be addressing this
again and again, there's a lot of these lots along East Main
Street that are zoned commercial and used to be small residents
and we're trying to pack these office buildings on these small
postage stamp lots. It's going to be a continuous battle. I
don't know a way around it but I just want to make sure that
when he moves that right-of-way back we still have enough room
for emergency vehicles, customers and everybody to get there
without driving through parking spaces and such. There's not
much room to begin with.
A. Fusco: That, by the way, hasn't changed. It's just a note.
A. Dulgarian: Yes, but if your moving it back five or ten
feet. . .
A. Fusco: We're not moving it back any more. Your plan is
correct in that regard. They just wanted the note larger.
A. Dulgarian: On this plan you're showing planting's in the
right-of-way.
A. Fusco: We've moved the planting's back but nothing has changed
in relationship to the, we're not moving anything back five
feet. We're just moving some of the planting's back.
A. Dulgarian: But if you're moving it back, it has to be .
. .
A. Fusco: We had extended the planting's out there because
we were using bigger trees.
T. Hamilton: That's probably why the County said they didn't
want the big trees projecting out onto their right-of-way.
A. Fusco: It was over the drip edge. The trees weren't on
their right-of-way.
P. Owen: I think there are too many issues for now.
R. Carr: I feel the same way.
G. Luenzmann: The same comments as everybody else.
G. Monaco: I want to wait until I see the latest plan.
T. Hamilton: Wait.
G. Lake: You know all the final issues.
A. Fusco: Yes.
G. Lake: I realize this has been a crazy week for everybody
but it's not fair to the Board to be looking at one map and
I didn't realize Dick was looking at a totally different one.
Are you going to need another work session?
D. McGoey: Yes. These Fire Department issues are fairly significant.
G. Lake: Yes, I read that report.
D. McGoey: Maybe we need to get the Fire Department in on
a work session because some of their items I am in agreement
with.
MOTION to TABLE for further review made by A. Dulgarian and
seconded by G. Luenzmann.
A. Dulgarian: Aye
P. Owen: Aye
R. Carr: Aye
T. Hamilton: Aye
G. Monaco: Aye
G. Luenzmann: Aye
G. Lake: Aye
MOTION CARRIED. 7 AYES
12. PROKOPOV (MONSEY DEVELOPMENT) - 10 LOT SUBDIVISION - FINAL
APPROVAL - (69-1-1.1) #043-003
D. Yanosh: I am the surveyor for the project. This has been
out there for many years. I think the last time we got Preliminary
Approval was in November 2002. We got an extension in August
of 2003. We finally received Health Department and Department
of Environmental Conservation approvals. The approval letters
from those agencies are in the file. We're back here for Final
Approval.
G. Lake: Do you have Dick's comments?
D. Yanosh: Yes.
G. Lake: Why don't we go right down.
D. Yanosh: The City signed off on this back in May of 2002.
I will give copies of the easement, that was one of his questions
here.
G. Lake: Dick, is that a question you need for him to see
if it is okay?
D. McGoey: Yes.
G. Barone: This letter that he handed in actually refers to
an easement agreement being entered into.
G. Lake: Then, you have to review that then?
G. Barone: Yes.
D. Yanosh: The Highway Department, there is a new construction
of Weber Road. I don't know if he has looked at it or not.
Dick was pretty good at picking up the note #7 and #8. We have
numbered those two notes. We're under five acres with this,
I just have to show some . . . I do have some bluebells and
some stuff down below for the stormwater management.
D. McGoey: Yes, but it has to be something with an acre disturbed?
D. Yanosh: Yes, we show some sediment control down below.
D. McGoey: When you're over an acre of disturbance you're
required to do a stormwater quality.
D. Yanosh: I thought it was five acres you needed the quality
review.
D. McGoey: I think that is for residential.
G. Lake: Let me go through the Board.
A. Dulgarian: I have no issues. I was very sorry to see that
Mr. Propokov had passed away.
P. Owen: Nothing.
R. Carr: Nothing.
G. Luenzmann: Nothing.
G. Monaco: Nothing.
T. Hamilton: What did you say about Weber road?
D. Yanosh: We have to clean it up. It's been abandoned for
many years. We have to clear the brush away and resurface it.
D. McGoey: Make sure that Mr. Lippert is happy.
T. Hamilton: Maybe he should be involved in a work session
to have it brought up to Town specifications.
D. McGoey: Right.
T. Hamilton: Did you see that?
D. Yanosh: No I didn't.
D. McGoey: It doesn't meet the Town specifications.
G. Lake: Are you okay with us giving him Final Approval subject
to your comments and the Highway Department comments and Fire
District comments?
D. McGoey: Yes.
MOTION for FINAL 10 LOT SUBDIVISION approval subject to Dick's
comments, Highway Department comments, and Fire District comments
made by G. Luenzmann and seconded by P. Owen.
A. Dulgarian: Aye
P. Owen: Aye
R. Carr: Aye
T. Hamilton: Aye
G. Monaco: Aye
G. Luenzmann: Aye
G. Lake: Aye
MOTION CARRIED. 7 AYES
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