P.
Owen: Nothing at this time.
R.
Carr: You're not using it now?
Mr.
Tetz: Not at this time. What we're doing right now is we use a
tablet that is put in the drum and put the water in and what ever
little concrete is in there keeps it from setting up. The problem
with that is you can't let the trucks go more than one day. You
can go over-night but you can't leave it for two, three or four
days.
J.
Allrich: It delays the chemical reaction. It's a retarder.
R.
Carr: How many trucks would you be washing out every day?
Mr.
Tetz: After they are loaded, they will go up. We like to keep
our trucks clean so they rinse them off after they are loaded.
They will actually be rinsed off there but there will be no concrete
out, just the water off the outside of the truck. We have twenty
six trucks right now. That's the maximum that would get washed
out. If they come back empty from the jobs and they have a little
bit of water in all we do is throw the tablet in and leave it
as long as it's not over a weekend or if we know the truck is
going to set for more than three or four days or needs work and
has to go into the shop then they will be washed out.
R.
Carr: My concern is in terms where would your trucks possibly
be lined up?
J.
Allrich: This is the way the system works. Essentially the way
it is today there's only room for two trucks at each bay. This
plan allows for three. We actually have a better flow but the
way it works is the trucks stagger back at anywhere depending
on the business cycle from 2:00 P.M. to 8:00 P.M. so there's never
more than one or two trucks to wash out at a time. This would
permit three. Basically they can only fit two now and they have
never stacked out on to Crotty Road. They are always in and out.
They don't all arrive back at the plant to wash out at a given
time. We have room for either three or six trucks to access the
site now with this plan where now you could only fit two.
G.
Monaco: Just a clarification. You have twenty six trucks. Six
bays here. The worst case scenario you would have a huge . . .
Will there be a time where you will be encroached upon on the
roadway. There wouldn't be a stack up.
J. Allrich: Absolutely.
R.
Stack: There's certain area where the stockpiles are. There's
also because of the way they directed the traffic flow which isn't
currently designed this way, the trucks can leave this way while
other ones are coming in. There is some additional room. It's
a ten acre site.
J.
Allrich: The way it is now let's put it this way. If they were,
they don't stack now but now they have to pull in and back out.
Now, they can pull in and go out the other way.
Mr.
Tetz: The other thing is it takes us between six and ten minutes
to load a load so by the time that guy is loaded and gets his
water, and goes up and washes off he should be done by the time
the next truck gets up there.
G.
Lake: Dick's comments. Have you seen them?
J.
Allrich: Yes.
G.
Lake: Are there any you want to go over with us?
J.
Allrich: I can tell you that the revised plans that were submitted
I think address all the comments. We can leave that with Dick.
G.
Lake: Dick, most of these comments are basically engineering,
correct?
D.
McGoey: Yes, other than the landscaping.
G.
Lake: Did you address the landscaping?
J.
Allrich: We did. We added planter islands here and trees on the
two sides here.
D.
McGoey: Did you add more landscaping?
J.
Allrich: I hand delivered plans to your office last week.
D.
McGoey: What I'm saying is I think the landscaping could use some
work. That's why I wanted more. I saw the landscape plan.
A.
Dulgarian: It's more appealing with different varieties than having
all the same.
J. Allrich: We're open to what ever you suggest.
D.
McGoey: Why do we need that wide curb cut in the middle?
J.
Allrich: To be able to clean the tank, the front end loader has
to go in and scoop that material out when each side is being dried.
These tanks are sized so that the front end loader that services
the plant when we're drying one side can go in and scoop that
material back out.
D.
McGoey: The pump house may not be the best looking structure.
J.
Allrich: The shed, either an underground chamber or texture 1-11.
G.
Lake: Mr. Barone, this is existing right. Is there a problem with
that?
G.
Barbone: Although it's existing, you can't enlarge an existing
use into a non-conforming
area. So, if they are now sixteen feet from the roadway at the
present use then they could maintain that use but they can't enlarge
into a non-conforming area.
J.
Allrich: We're actually right up to the road with the use now.
G.
Lake: The way you have it now, you will be back off a little better.
J.
Allrich: Better than we are today.
G.
Lake: What I am saying then, is that going to be okay? It's actually
making it smaller than being on the road like he is now.
G.
Barone: As long as they are not increasing the area of non-conforming.
J.
Allrich: We're decreasing it.
G.
Lake: You are going to be decreasing it?
J.
Allrich: Yes.
G.
Lake: Dick has a question on item #9. Do we need a Public Hearing?
A. Dulgarian: I don't believe so. We're looking at something that
is mandated by another agency. It's going to take the situation
and make it better for everyone involved. I don't have any problem
with it. I was up through there today and as they said they are
just dumping it on the ground right now. They are going to be
able to use a lot of the aggregate. We're not going to worry about
runoff. Everybody wins.
P.
Owen: I'm going to go along with Mr. Dulgarian's comments.
R.
Carr: Not audible.
G.
Monaco: No comments.
G.
Lake: I agree with Mr. Dulgarian. I think they are making the
system better. Dick, is there anything else?
D.
McGoey: I haven't seen the new plans yet.
G.
Lake: We want more landscaping around it. Put more trees in if
you can and replace any that die.
J.
Allrich: I will add a note to that affect.
MOTION
for a NEGATIVE DECLARATION made by A. Dulgarian and seconded by
R. Carr.
VOTING
AYE: G. Lake, R. Carr, A. Dulgarian, G. Monaco, P. Owen
MOTION
CARRIED. 5 AYES
MOTION
for SITE PLAN REVISION subject to D. McGoey's comments and review
made by A. Dulgarian and seconded by P. Owen.
VOTING
AYE: G. Lake, R. Carr, A. Dulgarian, G. Monaco, P. Owen
MOTION
CARRIED. 5 AYES
11. WALLKILL PROFESSIONAL PLAZA - SITE PLAN/SPECIAL USE PERMIT
Bert Crawford Road/Maltese Drive (53-3-4.5 & 50-1-56.22) #009-002
G.
Bergman: I'm an Engineer with Eustance & Horowitz. We represent
the Wallkill Professional Plaza. The project is located at the
corner of Bert Crawford Road and Maltese Drive on 3.32 acre parcel.
We propose to build a one story, eleven thousand square foot professional
medical office building. The parcel is zoned Highway Commercial
and our proposal meets the Highway Commercial requirements. In
one of the work sessions there was a question about the entire
parcel being zoned H-C. I was asked to bring a copy of a resolution
passed in October 13, 1994 that made the entire parcel H-C.
G.
Lake: Just for the whole Board, at the work session there was
a little piece that we weren't sure so we asked Mr. Bergman to
prove that the entire parcel was in the correct zone. It looks
like he has proved that now.
G.
Bergman: The resolution has everything attached.
G.
Lake: We will put that in the record.
G.
Bergman: The building is a one story building with a parcel basement.
The offices will be on that story facing Bert Crawford Road and
probably a little bit of Maltese Drive. The regulations require
seventy four parking spaces. We've provided seventy five parking
places which includes six handicap spaces. This project will be
served by public sewer and public water which are either on the
site or adjacent to the site in the existing town road. We've
proposed two entrances from the site. One in the north corner
of the parcel on Bert Crawford Road and a second entrance on Maltese
Drive. The Planning Board's consultant has requested that the
Maltese Drive entrance be a right in and right out only which
the applicant will agree to. An additional landscape buffer was
requested in the front of the building which we did provide an
additional fifteen feet which is in addition to the setback as
required. The landscape plan is presently being done by the landscape
architect. They will be submitted to the Town in the next several
weeks. With me tonight is Jeff DeGraw, the project architect and
he has a couple of handouts that he would like to give to the
Planning Board.
J.
DeGraw: This is just to give you the Preliminary drawings of the
idea of the building. It's intended to have more of a residential
scale a little bit. We are introducing a lot of roof lines, no
flat roofs. Clearly no County Building design here.
G. Lake: Other buildings in the Town would be
J.
DeGraw: Orange County Trust, Price Chopper and Warwick Savings
Bank on Tower Drive.
A.
Dulgarian: Not at this time.
P.
Owen: Not at this time.
R.
Carr: I don't have anything.
G.
Monaco: I have a question here with regards to the topography
map. I have a concern on the way this is positioned in relationship
to Maltese Drive. You will have a sufficient large area of blacktop
what would be the sufficient runoff in the winter to adversely
affect either Bert Crawford Road or Maltese Drive area?
G.
Bergman: Some of the runoff will, in fact, run in the existing
ditch on Maltese Drive. None of it will run to Bert Crawford Road.
If you flip the sheet to the grading plan you will see that there
are two places for storm sewer access to the site. It all eventually
gets down to the existing Masonic Creek.
G.
Lake: Dick's comments, do you have any problems with these?
G.
Bergman: I don't have any problem with Dick's comments.
TABLED.
To continue on April 17, 2002 meeting.
12. WATERVIEW - 24 LOT SUBDIVISION - Silver Lake Scotchtown Road/Conning
Road (28-6-2) #064-000
R.
Galsworthy: It's a twenty three lot residential subdivision on
Silver Lake Scotchtown Road.
G.
Lake: This also has had many work sessions with Mr. McGoey and
myself. It was an old project that was approved and the approval
ran out and then they came back. That's where we are at now. Dick,
do you just want to take a second for the new members to explain
some of the changes that has been made during your work sessions?
D. McGoey: One of the major issues had to do with the wetlands.
They had to re-configure the lots because of a project wetland
problem. The other had to do with the entrance drive coming out
to Silver Lake Scotchtown Road was not directly in line with Conning
Avenue so they had to re-configure that. They lost a coupe of
lots due to that. We've been having a struggle for a while and
I think now it's been resolved with the drainage off of the back
of the property. There will be some detention basins down there
and they have obtained an easement across the lot here.
G.
Lake: Dick's comments? Do you have them?
R.
Galsworthy: Yes.
G.
Lake: Do you have any problems answering his comments between
now and the Public Hearing?
R.
Galsworthy: No. Actually we have addressed them and Mr. McGoey
has updated them.
G.
Lake: On that easement, Mr. Barone, have you had a chance to look
at that?
G.
Barone: I've looked at the easement. It would cover storm water
drainage. The only issue is that after the storm water leaves
the area covered by this written easement it then could proceed
through some channels and ditches on private land. Those land
owners unless there is another easement agreement those individual
land owners have the right to impede the flow. It could create
an issue.
G.
Monaco: Mr. McGoey there are only two of these storm water detention
basins. That's all that's needed?
D.
McGoey: Yes. It does two things. It cleans the storm water and
they detain it to cut off the peak.
G.
Lake: Dick, are you going to need another work session on this?
D.
McGoey: Yes.
MOTION
to schedule a PUBLIC HEARING for May 1, 2002 made by G. Monaco
and seconded by P. Owen.
VOTING AYE: G. Lake, R. Carr, A. Dulgarian, G. Monaco, P. Owen
MOTION
CARRIED. 5 AYES
13. LENGD - North Galleria Drive
G.
Lake: Dick, do you have that paper?
D.
McGoey: Yes, I do.
G.
Lake: What we have, Gentlemen, is Pier 1, that property, right?
D.
McGoey: Yes. Pier I, Olive Garden, Seaman's, and the Pet Store.
G.
Lake: The owners of Pyramid is selling that off?
D.
McGoey: Yes.
G.
Lake: The description doesn't match what's on the map. So, we
have to redo the description.
D.
McGoey: The map and the resolution of approval does not match
with respect to square footage of the building and the number
of parking spaces. There was a typographical error in the resolution.
What they're trying to do is now match the resolution to the map.
G.
Lake: But it meets everything?
D.
McGoey: Yes.
A.
Dulgarian: As a stand alone?
D.
McGoey: Yes.
MOTION
made for the Chairman, Mr. Lake to sign the technical change to
correct the resolution made by A. Dulgarian and seconded by P.
Owen.
VOTING AYE: G. Lake, R. Carr, A. Dulgarian, G. Monaco, P. Owen
MOTION
CARRIED. 5 AYES