G.
Lake: Would you like to comment? Have they spoken to you?
S.
Mandelbaum: The real estate manager for Nextel has been in discussions
with the fire district and although there is nothing final in
writing I can go on record tonight saying we have agreed to work
very closely with the fire district to meet their needs to enhance
their service. We will do what ever we can within the interference
parameters of Nextel's antennas. It is a reasonable issue that
we have to just make sure does not interfere either way on their
end or our end. We always make space available for public emergency
services and public safety. We will certainly do so here. I have
to tell you we always make the offer and it's nice when somebody
actually follows up and accepts it because often we never hear
from ambulance or fire. We look forward to working with the Howells
Fire District on that.
G.
Lake: Howells is in a more rural area as you know. Their finances
might not be as great as some of the other fire districts in the
Town. Basically you are saying in laymen's language that you will
provide that space on their for them?
S.
Mandelbaum: Yes. We can do that.
G.
Lake: How about these other things? The walky-talky thing?
S. Mandelbaum: My understanding is that's still under negotiations.
The units are both walky-talkies or two-way radios and cell phones
which is sort of the selling point. A lot of the contractors and
sales people use the Nextel phones because they are direct two-way
radio in addition to a traditional cell phone. We are in negotiations,
I think we are down to numbers, how many units typically Nextel
can give to one specific entity. That was also part of the negotiations.
I'm confident we will come to an agreement on that.
G.
Lake: Anybody else?
Motion
made to close this Public Hearing at 8:08 P.M. made by P. Owen
and seconded by R. Carr.
A.
Dulgarian: Aye
P.
Owen: Aye
R.
Carr: Aye
G.
Lake: Aye
T.
Hamilton: Aye
G.
Luenzmann: Aye
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Ayes. Motion carried.
G.
Lake: Let's get to the comments. Do you have any problems with
any of these comments?
Dick, on the first comment maybe you should.
D.
McGoey: Item #1 I had not received the final report from Cona
until yesterday. I did review it. I have some questions which
I raised with Seth Mandelbaum today and they have been satisfactorily
resolved. As far as the need to fill the gap area our consultant
says that it is necessary to fill the gap area. Do you have any
problems with paving the access drive to the right-of-way in accordance
with the Department of Public Works requirements?
S.
Mandelbaum: Not at all. We do have a representative of Tectonic
here this evening. They have a detail to show you.
D.
McGoey: I will look at it when you provide the plans.
S.
Mandelbaum: Okay. That was my question because that's not a problem.
D. McGoey: I have asked the Planning Board Attorney to advise
as to whether the bonding requirements for the removal of the
tower has been included in the documents that you submitted.
G.
Barone: I haven't seen those. The bonding requirements. Can you
send those over so we can see it? Mr. Mandelbaum and I discussed
the insurance requirement provided for in the code and they are
agreeable to providing the insurance that's required. They were
agreeable to providing the bonds that are required. I also addressed
with Mr. Mandelbaum the fact that Nextel is the lessee of the
site, that we need to have written evidence, written consent signed
by the property owner which authorizes the Town if the need arose
to go in and remove the equipment as the Town code provides that
if the equipment is not used for a period of six months then it's
to be dismantled and removed. If the owner of the site and Nextel
doesn't do that, the Town can do in and do that and then charge
back the owner. We want it in writing to go on site to do that
and without having to file a mechanics lien against the property.
S.
Mandelbaum: The only comment I have to that, obviously the bond
would be the first source of money.
G.
Barbone: Absolutely.
S.
Mandelbaum: I believe the way the code is written is if the bonds
for what ever reason doesn't cover the removal then that would
be the last resort. I've never seen it happen that way but a lot
of codes do say that. I think the bond is certainly the first.
If Nextel can't do it, the bond will be there until the facility
is removed. That's not a problem.
D.
McGoey: Give me a copy of that also so I can look at the dollar
amount.
S.
Mandelbaum: I think it's at one hundred fifty percent of what
it would cost to remove. We can get you an estimate there.
G.
Lake: We need all that before signing the final plan.
S.
Mandelbaum: Right and obviously before a Building Permit will
be issued.
D.
McGoey: Item #5. They have verified that it is designed for the
one inch ice load. Item #6 I really couldn't find whether the
structure is designed for five users.
S. Mandelbaum: It sort of varies. There is a note on the elevation
view of the plan. It's also in the structural letter from. It
does mention four additional carriers beyond Nextel. That was
the exhibit to the February 1st letter and also on the elevation
view on the plans.
D.
McGoey: Okay.
A.
Dulgarian: It seems like they proved that it is needed in that
area and I know that was one of the biggest factors. Also, like
I mentioned before with the changes in technology it is nice to
see that we are protected if the need comes for dismantling. Each
application has to stand on it's own merit and we can't hold them
hostage to try to hook up something for another organization but
it is very nice of them to step up to the plate and help out an
organization that really needs it. I don't have a problem.
P.
Owen: I have nothing to add.
R.
Carr: My only question was that on the visual pictures there were
several different options.
S.
Mandelbaum: Yes.
R.
Carr: Has that been address which one?
S.
Mandelbaum: It's really part of the Site Plan approval frankly.
G.
Lake: I thought we did that the last time you were here.
S.
Mandelbaum: I think we discussed it but I don't know if there
was a final decision.
R.
Carr: There was nothing decided.
S.
Mandelbaum: I would be happy to describe those options again if
that would refresh your memory.
R.
Carr: I know what I like, but not the tree affect.
S.
Mandelbaum: That adds a lot of bulk. There are no symmetrical
trees I'm aware of in the real world but the manufacturers do
the best they can to make sure the site still works.
G. Lake: I thought we went with almost the same thing that was
on Tarbell Road except the color.
G.
McGoey: I thought it was to be galvanized.
S.
Mandelbaum: Do you still want the brown up to the tree line and
then galvanized above?
I think that was what we had agreed with.
G.
Lake: I think we went to that because it had a lot of trees.
S.
Mandelbaum: The blue looks fine. I drove up there on a really
bright blue day. It does blend in but on a gray day unfortunately
is not quite as, doesn't blend in as nice as we would hope.
G.
Luenzmann: I have no comments other than to see that I also echo
Mr. Dulgarian's feelings about sharing that resource with local
fire departments and I think that's a great thing to do.
T.
Hamilton: We did do a field review when the balloon was up and
went to different locations and it really has no impacts that
we could see.
G.
Lake: I agree with Mr. Hamilton. I was out there that day.
MOTION for a NEGATIVE DECLARATION subject to D. McGoey's review
made by P. Owen and seconded by G. Luenzmann.
A.
Dulgarian: Aye
P.
Owen: Aye
R.
Carr: Aye
G.
Lake: Aye
T.
Hamilton: Aye
G.
Luenzmann: Aye
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Ayes. Motion carried.
MOTION for SITE PLAN/SPECIAL USE PERMIT subject to D. McGoey's
review made by T. Hamilton and seconded by R. Carr.
A.
Dulgarian: Aye
P.
Owen: Aye
R.
Carr: Aye
G.
Lake: Aye
T.
Hamilton: Aye
G.
Luenzmann: Aye
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Ayes. Motion carried.
3.
CHURCH OF IGLESIA EMANUEL - SITE PLAN/SPECIAL USE PERMIT - EXTENSION
- (40-1-21.2) #035-000
C.
Mead Jr.: I am the Treasurer and representative for Iglesia Emanuel.
We are here today to request an extension on our Special Use,
Special Permit that was granted by this Board. The reason that
we're asking for this extension here is that we're not ready.
One of the reasons is we are trying to filter out those buildings
or building manufacturers that would not come in within compliance
with the code here in Town. We don't want to move in with any
type of shoddy work. We want to make sure of the workmanship we
are going to get and we are trying to choose a local erector.
We don't want to go too far away for fear that we may not be able
to get the right things done. When we're working locally we feel
that we might be able to get something accomplished a lot easier
especially folks that have already worked in the area. Right now
our architect Edgar C. Bloom is recommending that we go ahead
with the plans that we currently have however, because we've been
filtering out so many we've come short. We've come to close to
our time of making a request for our permit to build. At this
time we are just requesting that we get an extension so that we
can proceed with a little more comfort and so that we have time
to make the right choices and we're not held up.
G. Lake: Do you think that within the next year you will be ready?
C. Mead Jr.: Most definitely, yes. We're this close. We're a lot
closer than we were six months ago.
G.
Lake: This would be your second extension then?
C.
Mead Jr. Yes. Well the extension we originally requested was because
we were not familiar with how the permits were handed out and
we had a one year permit coinciding with a six month permit which
left us trying to do things in a very hurry up sort of fashion
so we requested the six month so that they both came in compliance.
G.
Lake: Do you think six months would be enough?
C.
Mead Jr.: Yes, probably.
A.
Dulgarian: His permit doesn't run out until October 2002 any way.
C.
Mead Jr. Our understanding was that May 14th was the time that
we had to request a Building Permit. We had to make application
by the 14th of May. That's why we are here before you now.
D.
McGoey: My notes indicate that back in October we gave them. They
have the same issue with six months and one year. We granted them
a one year extension to both Site Plan and Special Use Permit
back in October.
G.
Lake: We will give you six more months from now.
MOTION
for a SIX MONTH EXTENSION of SITE PLAN/SPECIAL USE PERMIT made
by A. Dulgarian and seconded by G. Luenzmann.
A.
Dulgarian: Aye
P.
Owen: Aye
R.
Carr: Aye
G.
Lake: Aye
T.
Hamilton: Aye
G. Luenzmann: Aye
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Ayes. Motion carried.
4. WRIGHT - ZONE CHANGE REQUEST - MI to RA - Bart Bull Road
D.
Yanosh: I am the surveyor for the project. It is an approximate
fifty seven acre parcel of land bordered by Bart Bull Road and
I-84. It is currently in the MI zone. On the other side of the
street from Bart Bull Road is RA. We are requesting to move the
zoning line across Bart Bull Road to encompass this parcel on
the west side of Bart Bull Road.
G.
Lake: Basically what we have to do tonight is set an informational
hearing for this. Was this sent to us from the Town Board?
C.
Kelly: Yes.
G.
Lake: This was sent down from the Town Board looking for a recommendation.
A.
Dulgarian: I have nothing at this time.
P.
Owen: Nothing at this time.
R.
Carr: What is the purpose of the change?
D.
Yanosh: It is hard to sell the property right now. We did have
a buyer. Someone was in about a year ago that wanted to put a
re-cycling business on this piece of property and there was a
lot of public empathy against it and the whole Board was here
with a room filled with people didn't want any M-I activity in
this area.
T.
Hamilton: It just so happened it was that particular use.
D.
Yanosh: That's true. Then again you look at the M-I, this is a
very isolated location. It's not near any highways. It's been
on the market for a while. No takers. There is a lot of wetlands
out there, a lot of Department of Environmental Conservation wetlands.
I will try to get more copies of this map before the next meeting
so you can see what's out there. There are limited resources to
use the property. There are some nice soils in the middle.
G. Luenzmann: I have nothing at this time.
T.
Hamilton: Not at this time.
MOTION
to schedule an INFORMATIONAL PUBLIC HEARING for June 5, 2002 made
by R. Carr and seconded by P. Owen.
A.
Dulgarian: Aye
P.
Owen: Aye
R.
Carr: Aye
G.
Lake: Aye
T.
Hamilton: Aye
G.
Luenzmann: Aye
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Ayes. Motion carried.
5. SPECTRASITE COMMUNICATION - SITE PLAN/SPECIAL USE PERMIT -
Tarbell Road (3-1-8) #030-002
G.
Lake: Can you tell us what you want to do?
T.
Downs: We would like to install a shelter on the existing lease
area right now, a 10 x 20, two-story. It would house equipment
for future co-locations. The lease area itself being so small,
that's why we want to stack the building.
G.
Lake: Where your building is now, you're just leasing that little
spot?
T.
Downs: Right. We don't actually have a building there right now.
It's just a micro-cell, which is on a slab.
G.
Lake: Right.
A. Dulgarian: Not right now.
P.
Owen: Nothing right now.
R.
Carr: Are there any problems with putting some kind of a gate?
T.
Downs: There's actually two ways into that. The access road we
put in but you can keep going down and around and drive right
in to the property plus you can also drive into right into it
from Route 17.
G.
Luenzmann: I'm just reading Dick's comments here and I just wondered
if you'd seen them yet.
G.
Lake: We will get to them.
G.
Luenzmann: I don't have anything until we get to Dick's comments.
T.
Hamilton: Same here.
G.
Lake: Do you have Dick's comments?
T.
Downs: No.
G.
Lake: Did you get them?
T.
Downs: No.
D.
McGoey: They went to the engineers.
G.
Lake: The first comment is the two-story shelter building.
T.
Downs: On the stairs?
G.
Lake: The two-story shelter, is there a reason why it has to be
two stories?
T.
Downs: To get four more tenants.
G.
Lake: You can't get in into one-story?
T. Downs: To one shelter, no. The compound itself is only thirty
feet. Nextel, Verizon, they don't want a 20 x 10 shelter. Very
small carriers will take a 10 x 10 just because of the amount
of equipment that they have in the shelters.
D.
McGoey: Why can't you expand the fenced area and make it a single
story structure?
T.
Downs: They tried to go ahead and get a larger leased area. Normally
when we build we build we try to get a 100 x 100 and when this
was negotiated they only got a thirty by thirty.
D.
McGoey: That was poor planning then.
T.
Hamilton: Yes. I was just thinking the same thing when you come
in with a project and you know the provisions to co-locate more
applicants right from the beginning. You should come in with a
size that is going to be able to accommodate four more locations.
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