TOWN OF WALLKILL PLANNING BOARD

MEETING

SEPTEMBER 17, 2003

MEMBERS PRESENT: G. Lake, R. Carr, A. Dulgarian, T. Hamilton, G. Luenzmann, G. Monaco, P. Owen

MEMBERS ABSENT: None

OTHERS PRESENT: G. Barone, D. McGoey

1. PUBLIC HEARING 7:30 P.M. - CIESLEWITZ - 2 LOT SUBDIVISION - King Road (12-1-51) #080-002

G. Lake: Public Hearing started at 7:37 P.M. M. Hunt read the Public Hearing notice.

M. Hunt: NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that a PUBLIC HEARING of the Planning Board of the Town of Wallkill, Orange County, New York, will be held at the Town Hall at 600 Route 211 East, in said Town, on the 17th day of September, 2003 at 7:30 P.M. or as soon thereafter as the matter can be heard that day on the application of John L. Jr., and Doris Cieslewitz for the approval of a two lot subdivision located on the west side of King Road, 300 feet +/- west of Scotchtown Collabar Road under Article III, Section 2 A of the Subdivision Law of the Town of Wallkill. All parties of interest will be heard at said time and place. S/Gary Lake, Chairman

G. Lake: Can you please bring us up to date?

D. Yanosh: This is a one hundred thirty one acre parcel of land on King Road. We were here about a year or so ago and cut off one lot off of King Road which is on the opposite side of that lot. It would be a 2.72 acre lot, fifty foot of frontage on King Road. It comes back through the woods out to the open field in the back. It will be a single family home, four bedroom house. There will also be an individual well and septic.

G. Lake: Let me go through the Board before the Public?

A. Dulgarian: I will wait until after the Public Hearing.

R. Carr: I will wait.

G. Luenzmann: I will wait.

G. Monaco: Nothing at this time.

T. Hamilton: After the Public.

G. Lake: Is there anyone from the Public who wishes to comment on this application?

MOTION to close this PUBLIC HEARING at 7:39 P.M. made by A. Dulgarian and seconded by G. Luenzmann.

A. Dulgarian: Aye

R. Carr: Aye

T. Hamilton: Aye

G. Monaco: Aye

G. Luenzmann: Aye

G. Lake: Aye

MOTION CARRIED. 6 AYES

G. Lake: Do you have Dick’s comments?

D. Yanosh: Yes I do.

G. Lake: Do you want to go through them real quick?

D. Yanosh: I have mentioned the septic. That’s no problem. Setting the monuments is the other one. It is a labeling problem. The wetlands, I just gave Dick a map which was done by the Department of Environmental Conservation and I will give you a copy of that for the file. We are in the process of Eustance & Horowitz approval for the septic system. The Agricultural District, I did bring a list down to the Town. MaryLynn has got a copy of what I mailed out to the individuals that they said was in the Agricultural District. I don’t know if you got any response back from that.

D. McGoey: How about the note for the Agricultural District?

D. Yanosh: I need a note?

G. Barone: It is a note to notify the owners that there is a farming operation happening near by.

D. Yanosh: That won’t be a problem.

G. Lake: Are we also supposed to combine the Public Hearing with the Agricultural District?

G. Barone: No. There’s no requirement on the Agricultural District to have a Public Hearing.

G. Lake: I thought we did.

G. Barone: A notice has to go out to the farmers that a Public Hearing is taking place.

G. Lake: Do we have the mailings for the Agricultural District?

D. Yanosh: Yes, she has that.

G. Lake: Let me go back through the Board.

A. Dulgarian: Dan, why the fifty foot right-of-way? Why didn’t you just put the lot all the way out to King Road?

D. Yanosh: If you walked out there, the majority of the property . . .

A. Dulgarian: Is it a natural boundary?

D. Yanosh: It is an open field through the rest of it. He may want to put a couple more lots up there. It’s a pretty open field from the rest of the area.

A. Dulgarian: I just wish it were done a little differently. I hate it when fifty foot right-of- ways to the back of the lot just to make a couple more lots.

D. Yanosh: The only reason we have this is everything to the west of our lot is wetlands.

P. Owen: Came in at this time.

R. Carr: The driveway is really tight with the neighbor. I don’t know how close you are to the house. The other thing is the site distance, is that really five hundred thirty feet coming out of the driveway to the left?

D. Yanosh: Four hundred fifty, I have.

R. Carr: Dick, I don’t know if you saw that but coming out to the left.

D. McGoey: I was out there but quite honestly I couldn’t quite figure out where that driveway was coming in.

R. Carr: If the site distance is okay, I don’t have a problem with the layout other than that driveway.

G. Luenzmann: I don’t have anything.

G. Monaco: Nothing.

T. Hamilton: Dan, what was your reasoning for the fifty foot right-of-way?

D. Yanosh: It’s not a right-of-way. It’s a fifty foot flag, is what it is.

T. Hamilton: But you said something about if he wanted to do something further.

D. Yanosh: The front parcel. He can’t do any more in the back. The front piece back here is a nice open field. He may be able to get two or three lots up here in this open field.

G. Lake: Do you have any problems with Dick’s comments?

D. Yanosh: No.

G. Lake: Are you going to check the site distance?

D. Yanosh: Yes. The Highway Superintendent will have to look at it.

T. Hamilton: Dick, shouldn’t they make it easier on us if they flagged it some how so we would know where the driveway will go?

D. McGoey: That would be nice to have.

R. Carr: It’s flagged now.

T. Hamilton: Was that flag the property line?

R. Carr: It was the flag to the property line and not the driveway.

D. Yanosh: The property line and then the driveway is up above.

A. Dulgarian: Just a question about the Agricultural District. No Public Hearing is needed?

G. Barone: No.

G. Luenzmann: Nothing.

G. Monaco: Nothing.

T. Hamilton: Nothing.

MOTION for a NEGATIVE DECLARATION subject to Dick’s comments and checking the site distance made by G. Luenzmann and seconded by G. Monaco.

A. Dulgarian: Aye

P. Owen: Aye

R. Carr: Aye

T. Hamilton: Aye

G. Monaco: Aye

G. Luenzmann: Aye

G. Lake: Aye

MOTION CARRIED. 7 AYES

MOTION for PRELIMINARY APPROVAL subject to Dick’s comments and checking the site distance made by G. Monaco and seconded by R. Carr.

A. Dulgarian: Aye

P. Owen: Aye

R. Carr: Aye

T. Hamilton: Aye

G. Monaco: Aye

G. Luenzmann: Aye

G. Lake: Aye

MOTION CARRIED. 7 AYES

MOTION for FINAL APPROVAL subject to Dick’s comments and checking on the site distance made by A. Dulgarian and seconded by G. Luenzmann.

A. Dulgarian: Aye

P. Owen: Aye

R. Carr: Aye

T. Hamilton: Aye

G. Monaco: Aye

G. Luenzmann: Aye

G. Lake: Aye

MOTION CARRIED. 7 AYES

2. PUBLIC HEARING 7:35 P.M. - THE STAGING LINE - SITE PLAN/SPECIAL USE PERMIT - Carpenter Avenue (50-2-37.1) #031-003

G. Lake: Public Hearing started at 7:47 P.M. M. Hunt read the Public Hearing notice.

M. Hunt: NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that a PUBLIC HEARING of the Planning Board of the Town of Wallkill, Orange County, New York, will be held at the Town Hall at 600 Route 211 East, in said Town, on the 17th day of September, 2003 at 7:30 P.M. or as soon thereafter as the matter can be heard that day on the application of The Staging Lane Inc., 120 Carpenter Avenue, Middletown, New York 10940 for approval of Car Hop, Ice Cream Stand, Mini Golf, RC Track, 120 Carpenter Avenue between Alto Music and Fair Grounds under Section 249-38 of the Zoning Law of the Town of Wallkill. All parties of interest will be heard at said time and place. S/Gary Lake, Chairman

G. Lake: Have you done anything else since you were here last?

A. Jasko: No other than stopping the burnout.

G. Lake: Let me go through the Board.

A. Dulgarian: Not at this time.

P. Owen: Nothing.

R. Carr: Nothing now.

G. Luenzmann: No.

G. Monaco: No.

T. Hamilton: You said you stopped the burnout?

A. Jasko: Yes.

T. Hamilton: When did you stop?

A. Jasko: The day you told me to.

T. Hamilton: What are the flag lines that go into the lot?

A. Jasko: That’s just to keep everybody in the direction we want them to go to come in to the car cruise.

T. Hamilton: Car cruise, what is that?

A. Jasko: It’s the car hop.

T. Hamilton: You have no approval for that.

A. Jasko: For the car hop.

T. Hamilton: There is no approval for anything. You shouldn’t be doing anything until you receive approval from us. Are you selling food there, also?

A. Jasko: We do have a concession. We have a permit for it.

T. Hamilton: The motor home, what is that there for?

A. Jasko: That’s our office right now.

T. Hamilton: Nobody living there at night?

A. Jasko: No.

T. Hamilton: Will that be taken out?

A. Jasko: Yes, once we get into the building.

G. Lake: Is there anyone from the Public who wishes to comment on this application?

MOTION to close this PUBLIC HEARING at 7:50 P.M. made by P. Owen and seconded by G. Luenzmann.

A. Dulgarian: Aye

P. Owen: Aye

R. Carr: Aye

T. Hamilton: Aye

G. Monaco: Aye

G. Luenzmann: Aye

T. Hamilton: Aye

MOTION CARRIED. 7 AYES

G. Lake: You’re not going to do the burnouts? You’ve done away with that. What else are you going to be doing?

T. Johnson: RC cars.

A. Jasko: Radio controlled cars.

T. Johnson: Miniature golf and the car hop.

G. Lake: And you will be having food. Will you be serving alcohol?

A. Jasko: No.

T. Hamilton: What is the car hop?

A. Jasko: A car hop is a place that custom cars, etc., come in. The car hop girls come up and serve you at your car. It’s not eat in. What they do, they line up in the parking lot and we give out trophy’s to the best car.

G. Lake: Any other questions? You realize, this is what you’re getting your approval on. The trailer?

A. Jasko: Once we get into the building.

G. Lake: Are you using the building yet?

A. Jasko: No.

G. Lake: After the approval will you be using the building?

A. Jasko: Yes.

T. Hamilton: What about the time trials?

A. Jasko: We’ve dropped that also.

A. Dulgarian: I’m just trying to figure out, no modifications to the existing building?
What about the parking lot?