G. Lake: That’s right.
S. Fini: We all live here in the Town of Wallkill. The mail
box is in the front of the building which is on Fini Drive and
not behind the building.
G. Lake: Mr. Fini, we know where the front of the building
and the mail box is. We have two roads which indicates two front
yards basically.
S. Fini: Rear yard.
G. Lake: You have two road accesses. What we’re trying
to do right now and I thought we had it pretty well straightened
out.
S. Fini: I’m sorry but when the building was built that
was the rear yard.
G. Lake: We’ve already addressed the way to take care
of that problem. We have to solve that problem and I thought
we did the right thing.
S. Fini: Thank you. The building next door is Occupations.
G. Lake: I know whose down there.
S. Fini: They have a whole line of busses. Where is the landscaping
there? It’s on a slope.
You’re looking at a whole row of busses and basically
he’s going to have the same thing.
P. Owen: They’re not in front of us at this time. We
can’t do anything.
G. Lake: Do you want us to table this?
T. DePew: No.
G. Luenzmann: I want to take another look at it.
G. Monaco: We’ve been pushing for landscaping. I would
like to revisit the site and take another look at it.
T. Hamilton: I have already stated my feelings.
G. Lake: The Board as a whole wants to go back out and look
at the site again.
T. DePew: Okay.
G. Lake: You might or may not have to put in trees when you
come back.
T. DePew: The loading berth in the front yard encroaches on
the entry drive. We went over that. Motor vehicle rental and
maintenance establishments are permitted as a Special Use in
the M-I zone. Conditions under Section 249-27 paragraph 13 requires
what should be confirmed on the Site Plan. A service facility
must be limited to exclusively for vehicles which are deemed
leased or rented and are subject to Special Use Permit approval
of the Planning Board. This should be so noted on the Site Plan.
The service and repair must be conducted inside the building
fully enclosed. This should also be noted on the Site Plan.
The applicant has provided such a note however the note indicates
that some repair will be done outside the building. This should
be reviewed by the Planning Board for accessibility. We had
discussed that in the work shop. Compliance with the bulk requirements
should be confirmed. I will check it again. The Planning Board
Attorney should be advised whether the frontage on Goshen Turnpike
is considered a front yard if so, a twenty five foot setback
is required. The Planning Board should discuss the need for
the clean up of lot #2 with the applicant. Also, the building
requirements should be advised whether there are any code violations
on lot #1 and lot #2 which must be corrected.
G. Lake: Have you started that?
T. DePew: I talked with Mr. Fini and they are in the process
of cleaning up the adjacent lot.
G. Lake: Anything else from the Board?
MOTION to schedule a PUBLIC HEARING for December 3, 2003 made
by A. Dulgarian and seconded by P. Owen.
A. Dulgarian: Aye
P. Owen: Aye
R. Carr: Aye
T. Hamilton: Aye
G. Monaco: Aye
G. Luenzmann: Aye
G. Lake: Aye
MOTION CARRIED. 7 AYES
T. DePew: Now, if we want to go to the Zoning Board of Appeals
do we need a denial or do we just go on the recommendation from
the Planning Board?
G. Barone: Refer them to the Zoning Board of Appeals.
MOTION to refer the applicant to the Zoning Board of Appeals
for an interpretation made by R. Carr and seconded by A. Dulgarian.
A. Dulgarian: Aye
P. Owen: Aye
R. Carr: Aye
T. Hamilton: Aye
G. Monaco: Aye
G. Luenzmann: Aye
G. Lake: Aye
MOTION CARRIED. 7 AYES
5. MIDDLETOWN MEDICAL EXP. - SITE PLAN - Edgewater Drive (53-4-10.2)
#069-002
A. Fusco: I am representing Middletown Medical. Just to refresh
everyone’s memory what we’re trying to do is a seven
thousand square foot addition, actually it’s a six thousand
nine hundred and ninety, I believe. We have received Mr. McGoey’s
comments and all of the technical comments, I believe, we’ve
kind of addressed without any issues. There are a couple of
things that would be up to the Planning Board regarding the
mobile cat scan unit and also some of the parking. Just to refresh
your memories we had exceeded the square footage required for
some of the parking. We did go to the Zoning Board of Appeals
and we did get a variance for some of the parking for five spaces.
We did receive that. Again, we are utilizing the former Fulton
car use area for employee parking. One of the things that we
had done is we had met with the Commissioner of Public Works
and worked out all the sign details. That was in a work shop
with Mr. McGoey, the Commissioner of Public Works and myself.
In addition to that we have used exact language regarding the
parking that had been given to us by the Planning Board Attorney.
Basically we’ve complied with all of those issues. One
of the other outstanding issues were fire department comments,
which we did receive today. They deal mainly with some of their
parking issues and to be honest with you I don’t know
that we’re able to comply with all their requirements.
Some of them are more engineering comments than fire safety
but I do understand where they’re coming from. We have
had this through several work sessions and I refer to the Planning
Board Engineer for an interpretation of some of it. It is a
tight sight. We’ve tried to comply with every angle that
we could. The only other issue was a detail on handicap parking
which we did change. That was on one of the detail sheets. We
had changed it on the front sheet but didn’t make it to
the detail sheet. This plan which I have before you does have
that. We did make those corrections. We’re here to request
a Negative Declaration and consideration for Site Plan/Special
Use Permit approval.
G. Lake: Let me go through the Board.
A. Dulgarian: One of my comments was the remote lot but I guess
that’s common more in the downtown area and not any grounds
to deny the project. My only comment would be that the Silver
Lake Fire District is satisfied.
P. Owen: Nothing right now.
R. Carr: I concur with Mr. Dulgarian. I do want to bring up
something about the landscaping along the front of Route 211
East. It had been suggested that you try to get the general
consensus to have some continuity of trees.
A. Fusco: Whatever you wish on that, to be honest with you,
all the plantings that we had submitted were all the hardwood,
evergreen; hardwood evergreen.
R. Carr: All the plantings?
A. Fusco: That’s what I’m saying. That’s
what our direction has been on all the other ones. If you want
some pear trees there, I have no issue with that at all. Some
Bradford pears, if that’s what you would want.
A. Dulgarian: Do you understand what he’s talking about?
Mr. Carr mentioned that to me and I think it is a very good
idea. We have to come to a consensus as an entire Board so when
we come down that corridor, it looks the same.
G. Lake: He’s willing to do it.
A. Fusco: What I will do is I will replace all the hardwoods
with Bradford pears.
R. Carr: Yes, just mainly across the front.
A. Fusco: That’s fine. I think it’s a great idea.
We did that all down Fulton Street and this spring it looked
beautiful. Nice white flowers and the blooms last for about
three weeks. I think it’s a good idea.
G. Luenzmann: Just in reference to the parking spaces.
G. Lake: You went to the Zoning Board of Appeals for that?
A. Fusco: Yes, we went to the Zoning Board of Appeals for a
five parking spot variance. We went in with ten and received
five.
G. Lake: What about the cat scan?
A. Fusco: I can address that now if you so wish. This is in
with conjunction with Orange Regional Medical Center in Horton
Hospital. What they do is they bring in a mobile cat scan once
a week. We put down twice a week just in case the demand requested
that. They have a set up pad there already. Certainly they had
been doing this in the past possibly without permission I assume.
T. Hamilton: I believe they got it from us.
A. Fusco: They want to continue with that. They bring the mobile
cat scan in there and through a doctor’s prescription
they check into the building right next door to it. You don’t
have to cross anywhere.
G. Lake: Building #2 they’re going to check into?
A. Fusco: They check into Building #2 or go directly to the
trailer.
G. Lake: Okay.
A. Fusco: So, it’s right close at hand. There is an existing
electrical pad there. All the support services are there for
that. They take up five to six spaces. This is the lot that
gets the least use now. This lot probably has more space available
than any of the other lots. It’s a service and it’s
utilized by the Public. Again, if they need to check in it will
be in that building right there so they’re not going to
be traveling distances from one spot to another. The medical
facility is increasing by 6,900 +/- square feet. They’re
not really planning on adding ten more doctors or anything like
that. They are just tight on space the way it is now. We don’t
anticipate a big onslaught of that much vehicles even though
the site is even tight now. That’s basically in relationship
to the parking. The other issue in relationship to the parking
and comments that were made. . .
G. Luenzmann: Have we resolved that parking with the cat scan
trailer there?
A. Fusco: It’s open for discussion by you. Pretty much
that’s what they need and that’s what they’re
requesting.
G. Lake: I know we talked about it in a work session and my
concern when we talked about it and you didn’t have the
answer at that time was that the people would have a distance
to walk to get to the trailer. The parking is always tight there.
G. Luenzmann: I’ve been there and it is tight and a few
more spaces probably wouldn’t make much difference.
G. Monaco: Talked about the cat scan trailer (not clear). I
don’t think it will become a big issue.
T. Hamilton: The Fire Department comments should be handled
like all the other comments.
A. Fusco: Thank you.
G. Lake: You said you just received the fire department comments
today?
A. Fusco: It was in my fax this morning, yes.
G. Lake: The fire department wants a fire lane in front of the
building. Dick, does it go across the whole front?
D. McGoey: It’s not labeled as a fire lane.
G. Lake: I thought that was pretty standard.
A. Fusco: One of the things that is a little bit unique in
that if I could recollect your memories on this is where the
addition is going we’re actually going to have the building
on stilts and there will be vehicles underneath that.
G. Lake: Right.
A. Fusco: There is a twenty five foot driveway there that we
can call a fire lane, if that’s what you’re referring
to. I have no problem labeling that a fire lane.
G. Lake: I don’t see it labeled in the front building
either.
A. Fusco: We can put in and label it a fire lane.
G. Lake: As tight as this is, we do need it labeled.
A. Fusco: I have no problem with that.
G. Lake: We have to keep that open. And then there is a little
concern and I can understand it the little loop in the front?
A. Fusco: Yes.
G. Lake: Is that strictly for drop-off?
A. Fusco: That’s just a drop-ff, no parking, no standing.
It’s for the elderly and infirmed.
G. Lake: Are you going to have signage there?
A. Fusco: Yes. Drop-off only.
G. Lake: Dick, did you go through this?
D. McGoey: The parking spaces near the building are sticking
out in the middle of the access aisle.
A. Fusco: I would have no problem moving them but I really have
no space to move them to. We went for a ten lot variance on
the parking and we got five.
G. Lake: Do many people park back there?
A. Fusco: To be honest, I think the maintenance crew are the
ones who actually end up parking back there. I think they have
one vehicle that’s a company vehicle that they run supplies
back and forth in.
G. Lake: Let me go through the Board one more time.
A. Dulgarian: If he has a car coming off of Route 211 and a
car coming off of Maltese and a car coming off of Edgewater
whose got the right-of-way there, where they all come together?
A. Fusco: I see where you’re talking.
A. Dulgarian: What kind of signage will you have there? A stop
sign or anything? This is a very unique parking lot with three
roads and there’s not a whole lot of signage that directs
people.
A. Fusco: We put a stop sign out of our lot.
A. Dulgarian: At shopping malls, we have some that helps the
motorists determine who has the right-of-way and which way it’s
designed for traffic to flow. Right now you have people coming
from three different directions.
A. Fusco: I understand what you’re saying. I misunderstood
what you were asking. I have no problem putting a Dick?
D. McGoey: A three way stop sign.
A. Dulgarian: You are removing two dumpsters and only having
one?
A. Fusco: No, we’re having two.
A. Dulgarian: Where’s the second one?
A. Fusco: Showed Mr. Dulgarian.
A. Dulgarian: And it will be enclosed from view.
A. Fusco: Absolutely.
A. Dulgarian: The last thing I have, I hate to stretch this
out but are you removing trees along the back there along Maltese
Drive? I don’t really see a landscaped plan to it’s
hard to understand.
A. Fusco: I don’t have a problem adding some more trees
in there. I see what you mean. We are removing three trees.
A. Dulgarian: You’re removing some there and some up
here and some over here.
A. Fusco: I will replace those. I will move all the hardwood
that we had up front in the back and replace the hardwood trees
there. I will submit a final landscape plan.
P. Owen: Nothing. This has come a long way.
R. Carr: Nothing.
G. Luenzmann: Nothing new.
G. Monaco: Nothing.
T. Hamilton: Nothing.
MOTION for a NEGATIVE DECLARATION subject to D. McGoey’s
comments and the Board member’s comments made by G. Luenzmann
and seconded by G. Monaco.
A. Dulgarian: Aye
P. Owen: Aye
R. Carr: Aye
T. Hamilton: Aye
G. Monaco: Aye
G. Luenzmann: Aye
G. Lake: Aye
MOTION CARRIED. 7 AYES
MOTION for SITE PLAN/SPECIAL USE PERMIT subject to D. McGoey’s
comments and Board member’s comments made by P. Owen and
seconded by G. Luenzmann.
A. Dulgarian: Aye
P. Owen: Aye
R. Carr: Aye
T. Hamilton: Aye
G. Monaco: Aye
