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G. Luenzmann: Aye

G. Lake: Aye

MOTION CARRIED. 7 AYES


6. WOLF - 10 LOT SUBDIVISION - Miller & VanAmburgh Roads (31-1-19) #046-003

J. Tirolli: I am the Engineer for the applicant and also with me is Mr. Lipman his Attorney.
This ten lot subdivision is for sketch plan and we’ve submitted as much information as we have. We don’t have the topographical information. We have location some of the Federal wetlands and depicted the flood zone as it affects the property near Route 211 East. The average lot size here is over three acres with a total of about thirty three acres.

G. Lake: Why don’t we go through Dick’s comments?

J. Tirolli: Item #1 talks about Miller Road which is a seasonal dirt road. Item #2 also addresses that issue that there are improvements required including perhaps a stream crossing structure and was previously discussed with the Highway Superintendent. Now, between sketch plan and Preliminary Plan our intention is to sit down with the Highway Superintendent and discuss what improvements he wants so we can be issued driveway permits as soon as the subdivision is approved.

G. Lake: I guess our question to you right now is, whose going to do it, you?


J. Tirolli: Well, we haven’t discussed the issue at large with the Highway Superintendent. We have to. He may indicate to us that he’s willing to replace the culverts, he’s willing to do the initial coarse. We don’t know. We haven’t had that discussion. In the end, if he’s not willing to give us driveway permits because of the condition of the road and he’s not willing to do anything then it’s going to be our obligation but we haven’t had that discussion so I can’t give you a definitive answer. All I can say is he has to be able to issue driveway permits.

G. Lake: My question to you on a worse case scenario on this ten lot, he might tell you that you have to bring the road up to specifications. Will you do that?

J. Tirolli: We will make a decision. If it’s not worth the ten lots. We understand.

G. Lake: The only other comment then is after your discussion with the Highway Superintendent, I think you are assuming all of Miller Road?

J. Tirolli: Yes, that’s correct.

A. Lipman: You mean only eliminating anything to the lots that exist already?

G. Lake: I think there’s one lot up there.

A. Lipman: Lots #4 and . . .

J. Tirolli: No. One lot.

G. Lake: It doesn’t make sense not to include that.

J. Tirolli: That’s what I said, the discussion is sort of in negotiations. We’re dealing actually with the north half and not the southern half so there are issues to be discussed with the Highway Superintendent.

G. Lake: Okay. You haven’t had any discussions with him at this point.

J.Tirolli: No.

G. Lake: Item #3.

J. Tirolli: We understand that. We will provide notice. Site distances will be shown as part of sketch plan approval. We typically wait until we do our soils tests and fix the driveways down at Preliminary to do those measurements. We certainly will provide that information and if it’s the case that one lot doesn’t have sufficient sight distance then . . .

G. Lake: Dick, are you looking for the site distance on Route 211 more than on Miller Road?

D. McGoey: Both. I don’t think it’s a real problem on Miller Road.

J. Tirolli: On Route 211 East lot #1 will require a permit from the New York State Department of Transportation. We will provide that to you before the Public Hearing.

G. Lake: We’ve been asking for actual speed and not the speed limit for site distance.

D. McGoey: Prevailing speed.

J. Tirolli: I’m not quite sure.

A. Lipman: You mean the distance with the handbook to get to the prevailing speed.

G. Lake: Yes.

J. Tirolli: Some lots are extremely configured by wetlands. The develop-able area of lot #1 is significantly restricted. Lot #1 restriction is the wetland is toward the rear third. The flood zone is what you see hatched out towards Route 211. There’s still probably a half or three quarters of an acre outside of that one hundred year flood zone. The sewer system, the proposed house, the well, the driveway are all outside the one hundred year flood zone and I guess for one or two days in one hundred years the back part of the lot they won’t be able to use. That restriction we don’t think is going to affect lot #1 currently because all of the important facilities are outside of that.

G. Lake: Let me go through the Board.

A. Dulgarian: Nothing.

P. Owen: Nothing now.

R.Carr: The road. I think you are trying to get a lot of lots and that’s why you have such a weird layout. Some of your driveways are going through the wetlands. The driveway here on lot #6 is almost right next to the existing driveway. One of the things that I would like to see here since there are a lot of wetlands and also a lot of older larger trees. I would like to have you preserve as many of the trees. I’m not crazy about the layout where the driveway is so close to the existing house.

J. Tirolli: So, trees twelve inches or larger that are going to be impacted. In other words, trees in the wetlands you’re not interested in seeing.

R. Carr: Dick, is twelve inches normal.


D. McGoey: Well, the ordinance has the provision of six inches or larger be identified.

J. Tirolli: Okay. In areas where we’re going to disturb the land we should show the trees six inches or larger. Not a problem.

T. Hamilton: Should they be flagged? I know we’ve had discussions among ourselves on basically we’ve approved some plans and go back later and notice what happened to all the trees?

D. McGoey: Flagging them prior to Building Permit?

T. Hamilton: Just to make sure that they stay.

J. Tirolli: We will inventory them on the plan and then through Preliminary you will decide.

G. Luenzmann: I don’t have anything. I do agree the trees should be identified and shown on the plan.

J. Tirolli: We’re going to do that as part of Preliminary. I just wanted to make it clear we’re going to locate trees six inches and larger in the area of each lot where we’re proposing improvements.

G. Lake: You’re not doing the wetlands?

J. Tirolli: Wetlands or flood zone where we’re not showing any improvements.

T. Hamilton: We want to be able to look at and see the reasons why you’re taking them down. That’s all.

J. Tirolli: Fair enough.

G. Monaco: Nothing other than what has already been said.

T. Hamilton: Nothing.

D. McGoey: The Board should be aware that the other side of Miller Road there may be a proposed subdivision in that area.

G. Lake: Now is the time to do it.

J. Tirolli: When we discuss it with the Highway Superintendent it will certainly be on our minds.

G. Lake: Maybe we should get together to get everything squared away.

D. McGoey: Right.

Tabled for further review.


7. A & D MANAGEMENT - SITE PLAN - East Main Street (50-1-21) #100-002

CANCELLED.


8. PET MEMORIAL SERVICES - SITE PLAN/SPECIAL USE PERMIT - O’Haire Road (46-1-76.1) #045-003

J. Lanc: I’m with Lanc & Tully Engineers. I don’t know how much you want me to explain about the project. The project is located on O’Haire Road and north if interstate 84 and south of Route 211 East. It’s about 3.7 acres. It was used previously as a dairy barn. After that if was used by Lands Master Company, who was a landscaping business. For the last five years it has been vacant. It is a vacant building of about five thousand one hundred square feet. There is a two-car garage and like a small office next to it of about nine hundred square feet. What is being proposed is renovation of the existing building. I have a picture of what it looks like now and if you look at the photograph in front of you I think that we are going to improve the looks of it. The front portion of the building in the center will be removed because it’s difficult to use because it has a different floor elevation. We will be also putting a small addition to the back and we will be raising the roof in the middle. It will give us a little bit better appearance rather than a barn. It will also provide enough space for the building. The use will be basically for pet owners to take care of their pets. About half of the people decide to have the ashes taken with them home in the urn. Some people bury them on their property. Some people just want to have a memorial service for their pet and then they either stay there while the process is being done or they leave before the pet is cremated. That’s what this business will be. They will be having vehicles to pick up the pets from people. The average size would probably be the size of a deer. They would cremate the animal. They will be using propane gas. The chimney will be discharging the hot air. The building will not look like any kind of a commercial use. The ashes of the animals that the people will not pick up will be taken once a week by a licensed approved landfill. The operation has to be approved by the New York State Department of Environmental Department of Conservation. We are providing some improvements to the site. The entire driveway and parking spaces will be paved. We will be providing curbs in some of the areas and some additional landscaping. Some minor grading and removal of the existing fuel tank and oil tank and improving the appearance of the building.


G. Lake: Let me go through the Board.

A. Dulgarian: We’re just going to schedule the Public Hearing?

G. Lake: Yes.

A. Dulgarian: The landscaping and as far as the use, it’s very interesting and I would like to see all the impacts.

P. Owen: Nothing.

R. Carr: Just one thing. Is there curbing along the back?

J. Lanc: There is no curbing along the back because the water goes by sub-surface sheet flow to the wetlands in the back.

R. Carr: Are there two grades along the right side?

J. Lanc: No it’s not.

G. Luenzmann: I just think it’s a good project for that location.

G. Monaco: This is only going to be for cremation and services?

J. Lanc: That’s correct. There will not be a cemetery. All animals will be taken away. The operators of the crematorium will be offering their services to the Town of Wallkill Department of Public Works if there is any deer or any animal that they have to remove from the side of the Town roads, they can taken them to this operation and they will be cremated and ashes removed at no cost to the Town.

T. Hamilton: No questions.

G. Lake: Do you have any problems with any of Dick’s comments? I think you’ve already answered a lot of them. You do have to ascertain . . .

D. McGoey: Whether the uses are allowable in the M-I zone.

G. Barone: I researched that and there are recorded cases which felt that it is consistent with a cemetery use.

G. Lake: Okay. You don’t have a problem with any of them?


J. Lanc: I would have two questions. We are planning on providing curbs approximately to here but maybe the rest we will leave it the way it is.

D. McGoey: I think you will see in the ordinance that the parking regulations requires curbing.

J. Lanc: We have no problem to do that. The other comment the trees on the right side of the access drive would it be appropriate maybe to have two small trees there closer to the drive for the additional landscaping?

D. McGoey: I would have to look. You don’t show it on the Site Plan.

J. Lanc: They are shown on the right side as you are entering.

D. McGoey: I see a couple of trees.

J. Lanc: Showed and explained the plan to Mr. McGoey. Otherwise we have no problems with Dick’s comments. I would like to just mention that we have approached the adjoining owner about possibly giving them a portion of our land and the reason for it is there is an existing pond and half of the pond is on his land and the other half on our land. We thought it might be a lot better because he can use the pond and he would feel better if he owned the entire pond. We would like to do a lot line change at the same time as we go through the Site Plan approval.

MOTION to schedule a PUBLIC HEARING for December 3, 2003 made by P. Owen and seconded by G. Luenzmann.

A. Dulgarian: Aye

P. Owen: Aye

R. Carr: Aye

T. Hamilton: Aye

G. Monaco: Aye

G. Luenzmann: Aye

G. Lake: Aye

MOTION CARRIED. 7 AYES

9. D.I.C. - SITE PLAN REVISION - County Route 53 (46-1-76.2) #055-003

J. Dillin: