G.
Lake: Aye
Motion
carried. 7 AYES
MOTION
for SITE PLAN/SPECIAL USE PERMIT subject to all comments made
by A. Dulgarian and seconded by T. Hamilton.
A.
Dulgarian: Aye
P.
Owen: Aye
R.
Carr: Aye
T.
Hamilton: Aye
G.
Monaco: Aye
G.
Luenzmann: Aye
G. Lake: Aye
Motion
carried. 7 AYES
1. LEE DEVELOPMENT - 2 LOT SUBDIVISION - Murray/Manning Roads
(62-1-30.1) #052-002
R.
Ferris: I am representing the applicant
G.
Lake: Tell us what you want to do.
R.
Ferris: We?re asking for a two lot residential subdivision. One
parcel would be two acres in size and the other will be 4.9 acres.
The property is located at the intersection of Murray and Manning
Road.
G.
Lake: Do you have Dick?s comments?
R.
Ferris: Yes.
G.
Lake: How about item #2?
R.
Ferris: The site distances have been added on the plan and will
all meet the Town requirements. The house and well on the adjoining
property has been shown on the Pine property. The standard details
that the Town wants for the widening are being added to the sheets.
The profile with the negative grades have been shown and added
to the drawings. Lot #1 will need a driveway culvert and that?s
been added. Lot #2 the grades into the parcel are so no culvert
is required. We would be asking for a Public Hearing to be scheduled.
G.
Lake: This has been subdivided?
R.
Ferris: Yes. This was originally subdivided in 1999.
G.
Lake: Let me go through the Board.
A.
Dulgarian: Nothing.
P.
Owen: Nothing.
R. Carr: Just a question on the lot width and depth. On lot #1
which way are you looking at, is it along Murray Road? Is that
the width?
R.
Ferris: That?s the way it?s noted because the house is turned.
We will correct that.
R.
Carr: But then you?re shy on the depth.
T.
Hamilton: Corner lots, you have two front yards.
R.
Carr: So the depth doesn?t matter.
T.
Hamilton: He picks which is rear and which is side yard.
R.
Ferris: The rear yard is a distance from the house to the rear
yard. The lot depth is two hundred eighty six feet.
G.
Luenzmann: Nothing.
G.
Monaco: Nothing further.
T.
Hamilton: No comments.
MOTION
to schedule a PUBLIC HEARING for December 4, 2002 made by P. Owen
and seconded by R. Carr.
A.
Dulgarian: Aye
P.
Owen: Aye
R.
Carr: Aye
T.
Hamilton: Aye
G.
Monaco: Aye
G.
Luenzmann: Aye
G.
Lake: Aye
Motion carried. 7 AYES
2. DRAGO - TWO FAMILY - SITE PLAN/SPECIAL USE PERMIT - Boorman
Road (32-1-40.222) #075-002
C.
Foti: I am representing Mr. Drago. We have a 6.33 acre lot on
Boorman Road. We?re seeking a Special Use Permit to put a two
family residence on this lot.
G.
Lake: I will go through the Board.
A.
Dulgarian: Just Dick?s comment about there is no soils formula
here. How do we know what the lot sizes are to be?
C.
Foti: Basically I?ve gone through Dick?s comments which were received
on the 8th and added the soils and rather than surprise the Planning
Board I was just going to submit them at the next meeting. I?ve
added the soils.
A.
Dulgarian: I have enough of those now. We should have time to
look at them.
G.
Lake: We have to set a Public Hearing.
A.
Dulgarian: Okay.
G.
Lake: You will have time.
P.
Owen: Nothing else.
R.
Carr: Nothing.
G.
Luenzmann: No, I don?t.
G.
Monaco: Nothing.
T.
Hamilton: Just before the time of the Public Hearing we should
have all of these eight items answered.
G.
Lake: Are you going to have any problems with these eight items?
C. Foti: No. In fact I have resolved seven of the eight.
G.
Lake: Dick, do you need another work session for this?
D.
McGoey: Yes.
MOTION
to schedule a PUBLIC HEARING for December 18, 2002 made by A.
Dulgarian and seconded by G. Luenzmann.
A.
Dulgarian: Aye
P.
Owen: Aye
R.
Carr: Aye
T.
Hamilton: Aye
G.
Monaco: Aye
G.
Luenzmann: Aye
G.
Lake: Aye
Motion
carried. 7 AYES
3. BRYANT HOLDINGS - 2 LOT SUBDIVISION - Crystal Run Road/Goshen
Turnpike (60-1-22.11) #088-002
G. Bergman: I?m an Engineer with Eustance & Horowitz. I?m
here representing Bryant Holdings LLC. We?re here requesting an
approval of a two lot subdivision. The property is located on
Crystal Run Road. The existing building was formerly Refrigeration
Resources which received Site Plan approval from this Board in
early 1999. The applicant has closed his business of which he
will sell the building and therefore subdivide off approximately
7.8 acre parcel from the parent parcel. He has no plans presently
for the parent parcel. The parent parcel contains probably about
ten to fifteen acres of wetlands however, there are several pieces
of it that could be developed. There is three and a half acres
adjacent to Crystal Run Road and at least seven acres in one contiguous
parcel at the rear of it and about five acres in another. He has
no plans to do anything. He is going to keep the remaining twenty
five acres. He wishes to subdivide off the 7.8 acre parcel with
the existing building on it.
G.
Lake: When was that subdivided?
G.
Bergman: We represented in 1999 and we represented the former
owner before that. I know of no other subdivision. We represented
the Taco Chip with Louis Barbone about 1989.
D.
McGoey: So, it is more than ten years.
G.
Bergman: We didn?t subdivide it then either.
G.
Lake: Do you have Dick?s comments?
G.
Bergman: I have Dick?s comments. I?ve answered comment #1. The
side setback for the existing building on the westerly side should
be shown. I?ve shown it on the revised plan but I haven?t submitted
it yet.
D.
McGoey: I missed your explanation of comment #1? Do you have a
sketch plan?
G.
Bergman: No I don?t have a sketch plan. We have no plans for doing
anything but we did calculate the acreage that was available for
development. There?s three and a half acres at the front portion,
that would be the northwest corner of the property adjacent to
Crystal Run Road. There?s approximately seven acres at the parcel
in the rear. He has no plans to do any development on the property.
There is usable property there.
D.
McGoey: I just want you to make sure the Board knows the lot is
build-able.
G.
Bergman: Absolutely. My client understood that also. The accuracy
of the wetland boundaries. I did verify that with Dick. The horizontal
and vertical datum. We will note that. We covered the previous
subdivisions.
G.
Lake: We can approve this tonight because it is only two lots?
G.
Barone: That?s correct.
G. Lake: I will go through the Board.
A.
Dulgarian: Nothing.
P.
Owen: Nothing.
R.
Carr: Nothing.
G.
Luenzmann: Nothing.
G.
Monaco: Nothing.
T.
Hamilton: Nothing.
MOTION
for a NEGATIVE DECLARATION made by A. Dulgarian and seconded by
P. Owen.
A.
Dulgarian: Aye
P.
Owen: Aye
R.
Carr: Aye
T.
Hamilton: Aye
G.
Monaco: Aye
G.
Luenzmann: Aye
G.
Lake: Aye
Motion
carried. 7 AYES
MOTION
for a 2 LOT SUBDIVISION subject to all comments made by R. Carr
and seconded by P. Owen.
A.
Dulgarian: Aye
P. Owen: Aye
R.
Carr: Aye
T.
Hamilton: Aye
G.
Monaco: Aye
G.
Luenzmann: Aye
G.
Lake: Aye
Motion
carried. 7 AYES
4. SAWKA - 5 LOT SUBDIVISION - Hubbard Road (6-1-24.23) #048-002
E.
Johnson: I am representing Nick Sawka on a five lot subdivision
off of Hubbard Road.
G.
Lake: Are you going for open development on this?
E.
Johnson: I tried to get in touch with Mr. McGoey today. Dick,
I got your letter today stating that you never received the one
where the soil erosion is. I dropped off, when we talked that
day two sets of plans. One with the first proposal that we had
with the two driveways. And the second set of plans with one private
road in there. I had no idea until I got these comments today
that Dick never got those.
G.
Lake: You did have a work session, correct?
E.
Johnson: Right.
G.
Lake: I think that?s when you gave us something like this. Then
we talked about . . .
E.
Johnson: Doing an open development.
G.
Lake: I think we also said you had to go to the Town Board at
that point.
E.
Johnson: Right.
G. Lake: Did you do any of that?
E.
Johnson: No. We said we were coming back to here.
G.
Lake: We didn?t mention at that point that we needed the plans
in between two days and now?
E.
Johnson: We had them in fifteen days before.
G.
Lake: Explain to the Board.
E.
Johnson: Do you want copies of these so we can at least look at
what we?re doing?
G.
Lake: Are they the ones we have?
E.
Johnson: Obviously because I put the private road on this that
Mr. McGoey wanted.
G.
Lake: No. I don?t think he wanted that. That was just a suggestion
at that work shop and that?s why we asked you if you wanted to
go the Town Board to see if they would even consider the open
development. This Board cannot grant you an open development without
going to the Town Board first.
A.
Dulgarian: Can you explain open development?
G.
Lake: The Town Board can approve a road in there which will be
a private road and is maintained by them. It is shared. It has
to be a Town Board action.
A.
Dulgarian: So, that?s not up to us to approve it then?
G.
Lake: No.
E.
Johnson: I?m trying to propose it with the open development with
one private road going in serving the four lots with Mr. Sawka
holding the remaining 6.09 acres for his own house which has already
been built there instead of having the other plan where we had
the two driveways or three driveways serving the rest of the lots.
A.
Dulgarian: What do we do? We send a recommendation to the Town
Board.
G. Lake: Yes, we will.
A.
Dulgarian: The one you?re calling the open development private
road is substantially better than the alternative here in my opinion.
E.
Johnson: We will do away with the flag lot on the other side.
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