PUBLIC HEARINGS:
WARWICK SAVINGS BANK: Request for a side yard variance (249-29-D-3-b).
Property located at One Industrial Drive (SEC 41 BL 1 LOT 26.421);
Designated PID.
Mrs. Thompson: The mailings were reviewed by the Board and filed
by the Secretary. The Public Notice was read at 8:45 pm.
Mr. Smith: I Move to open the Public Hearing at 8:46 pm.
Mr. Smith: Please present your application.
R. Krahulik, Esq.
Dominic P. Mazza, VP Warwick Savings Bank.
R. Krahulik, Esq.: You have a minor sub division of property
on corner of Industrial and Tower Drives. We propose a creation
of a second lot in addition to existing commercial building which
is constructed on the property. We are here in proposed sub division
application, in order to comply with 200 foot minimum lot width
requirement, we have a situation where property line fall in
the center of existing boulevard entrance and exit way for the
bank on that site. As result of existing parking and entrance
way, we are unable to provide the 50 foot wide landscape buffer
under Town zoning ordinance. We have some physical characteristics
of the lot which we think should be taken into consideration
and that is our proximity to the corner of Industrial and Tower
Drives. We believe the boulevard entrance way is consistent with
the intent of the Town Zoning Ordinance and best provides for
traffic flow in and out of the property and will provide least
amount of congestion for traffic at the intersection of Tower
and Industrial Drives. With that said, I think like to open to
the Public comment.
Mr. Smith: Any comments from the Board?
Mrs.
Thompson: This is a situation I think they really did not look
into before they created it. We don’t know what is
going to go on that property and what the parking and landscape
needs will be for side yards.
R.
Krahulik, Esq.: Well the zoning ordinance dictates what the
parking requirements will be when applicant makes application
to the Planning Board to construct build upon the property. Its
not our intent to sell the property to any particular buyer and
don’t know who the buyer will be but to market the lot
as an available lot we need subdivision approval. It’s
the ‘chicken and the egg’ theory – what do
we have to sell?
Mr. Oster: You are looking from 50ft to 0 ft, that is correct?
R. Krahulik, Esq.: That is true.
Mr. Oster: And if you are to be considered you have enough parking
by losing these parking spots. What would be the problem of greening
or grasses?
R. Krahulik, Esq.: Its almost a Para dyne.
Mr.
Oster: As long as you don’t need the parking. You
don’t lose parking, right?
Mr. Mazza: Yes.
R.
Krahulik, Esq.: Its not necessarily Lot #2 that we need to
focus on, we have same problem on Lot #1 with side yard landscape
buffer that is required. Its physically impossible for us to
provide side yard landscape buffer on Lot #1 – the building
has already been constructed its 37.5 feet to side yard lot line.
It would be absolutely impossible to provide landscape buffer
on Lot #1. Now could we begin to move property line over into
Lot #2 and provide a more narrow lot width on Lot #2, yes we
could. We would need a variance to do that. But, as we shift
property line over we still provide zero ‘0’ landscape
buffer on Lot #1.
Mr. Oster: It would be difficult to get 100 feet for 50 on one
and 50 for the other.
R.
Krahulik, Esq.: It would be absolutely impossible to provide
100 feet; to even provide 50 feet on Lot #2 that may be possible
but we still…
Mr.
Oster: …but regardless, when this was purchased as
one lot you needed some buffers for this lot. I just don’t
know why this was ever considered to become a buildable piece
of property here (looking at drawing) with needing buffer on
the other side. That is what I am trying to understand and I
grant you - you have a lovely building here, landscaping off
to this side and trying to figure what in your people’s
minds now are you coming before the board for this side with
lovely lawn and grass and all the sudden because of a need for
something over here that was a parking lot, allow us nothing
to work with – zero footage on either side not 50 foot
given up here but 100 when you add it all together. It is difficult
to understand why you or for your own aesthetics, why you would
want to do that.
R.
Krahulik, Esq.: I can’t speak to what was done when
the original site plan was prepared.
Mr.
Oster: You see what was there – I bank there I drive
through the lots often and was there yesterday looking at it
and the grass lands around it and always thought that was a concept
of the bank of taking over that corner.
Mr. Mazza: When this was put together it was always the concept
idea of the bank to sub divide it in a future date. Why they
did not do it at the time of property construction end of it
I have no idea. Always intention of the bank to do that when
building was constructed.
Mr. Oster: Was it landscaped knowing they would pull up all
those trees?
Mr. Mazza: We were really lead to believe we would not have
an issue at the time it was put together.
Mr.
Oster: By the board ….
Mr.
Mazza: … the engineering firm.
Mr.
Smith: The entrance way is nice and have been on Industrial
Drive with number of entrance ways and do have problem not only
in creating buffer problem for the new lot but the existing lot.
There is a way to alleviate some of it – more entrances
to the right and create a buffer. I don’t mind some of
the parking in the back but some of it towards the street – would
like to see a buffer on each side. It may mean moving your entrance
way over as you come in – besides the entrance way, do
buffer – you have to do an easement any way. The entrance
way would be on this lot and the back maintain easement for accessing
over that and you will have reciprocal parking easement agreement.
R. Krahulik, Esq.: If we move the lot line 30 feet to the right
we could provide 50 foot required buffer on Lot #2. And accommodate
every proposal you suggest but still need zero for existing Lot
#2.
Mr. Owen: You are talking about over here (map)?
Mr. Smith: No, move this over. You would still have a zero on
your lot.
R.
Krahulik, Esq.: And move the entranceway over 30 feet; move
lot line over 30 feet. Provide 50 foot wide buffer on Lot #2.
I don’t know how traffic flow works well at the entrance
way.
Mr. Smith: That is not our area.
Mr. Mazza: How about if we submit a sketch plan which would
show a building on this particular lot as far as building size,
parking?
Mr.
Smith: You can if you want to. Overall running this line down
the center and having parking on both sides with no buffer – I
am not crazy about it either. As you said you bought it as one
lot and know this would happen.
R. Krahulik, Esq.: We are willing to accommodate all of your
issues but we have some physical impediments. We can only do
so much and have 2 acres of land we intend to utilize.
Mr.
Oster: It could have been utilized from the beginning with
a bigger building right from the start or it could have been
sub divided right in the beginning. People have 2 acres and have
intention of using them and the line down middle of parking lot
and saying it’s a hardship now – there is no building.
Options are there if you want to look at them.
Mr. Mazza: That is not the issue; the bank is not in a position
to increase square footage of the building. Out intent from the
beginning was to sub divide it
Mr. Oster: we are looking at vacant lot on both sides of the
land on the line.
Mr.
Smith: Although you can’t get the buffer along the
whole boundary line, you can get it along sections of it if you
move the entranceway. Just to the right of the building, you
would lose some parking you can always add parking to that, you
could get buffer there. This would have to be done over showing
some kind of easement show. It is more involved than you first
thought.
R. Krahulik, Esq.: The easement is what I am having difficulty
with visualizing what you are describing.
Mr.
Oster: We can’t help as its not our place. With that
square footage you can plant it deeper and thicker and get away
with. With zero footage it is not allowable for one tree.
R. Krahulik, Esq.: We will begin narrowing Lot #2 then.
Mr. Owen: Then you are just creating another variance.
R.
Krahulik, Esq.: That’s right.
Mr.
Owen: I don’t feel this is subdivideable the way it
is. The reason for this is to have a buffer. You do see it, eliminating
it is a whole other thing. The lot can’t – if you
can’t sub divide the lot and at least come close to the
Code calls for, you can’t get it sub divided. You are creating
your own hardship here.
Mr. Oster: We are over stepping ourselves. We have the one variance
here and they have to narrow that down as their decision, again,
a few of us speaking. We can take this to a vote.
R. Krahulik, Esq.: We will resubmit a new application.
Mr. Smith: Is there anyone from the Public here on this application?
(no)
Discussion closed: 9:00 pm.
ANTHONY FINI: Request for a lot size and set back variance (249-20-D)
for Property located at 546 Silver Lake - Scotchtown Road (SEC
98 BL 1 LOT 6); Designated R-2.
Applicant not present.
LEWIS SIGN CO. (Orange County Animal Emergency Service): Request
for sign variances (249-11-N-1 and 249-11-N-1-a(1); Property
located at 517 Rt 211 East (SEC 41 BL 1 LOT 42.1); Designated
HC.
Mrs. Thompson: The mailings were reviewed by the Board and filed
by the Secretary. The Public Notice was read at 9:01 pm.
Mr. Smith: I Move to open the Public Hearing at 9:02 pm.
Sharlene DiNunzio for Lewis Sign, Co.: This is to add 2 signs
for a total square footage of 50.
Mr.
Smith: You want ‘ V ‘ front in the front of
the building.
Mr.
Oster: It’s a fare increase on the amount of square
footage of signage. As you notice there is a lot of signage there.
I have no problem with these signs and it gives you some visibility
but not so sure about the other sign.
Ms
DiNunzio: That is the one that going to draw your eye. They
wanted a free-standing sign but no to place to put them there.
If you have a sick animal in your car and its open all night
and you will miss it and it’s a tough road as it is.
Mr.
Oster: I am not disagreeing with the problem regardless of
the use if start setting … I could get a big mall coming
in wanting their square footage tripled also.
Ms DiNunzio: The malls are pretty well covered.
Mr.
Oster: It is a precedence setting as to how much square footage
you are allowing certain businesses and things like that.
I have no problem with the ‘V” and think that should
give you enough; not so sure about extra sign.
Mrs. Thompson: When people are looking for this people are desperate
and I have been there.
Ms DiNunzio: And that is basically what the neon was for.
Mr.
Oster: I don’t think it going to hurt. I was not on
the board but they turned down one for Hampton Inn a larger sign
and many times I have driven down looking for a motel, too, and
the guy said he wanted make a big sign in the Town of Wallkill – we
turned him down.
Mr. Smith: I think we need something to get people there.
Mr. Morgan: This is an important place when you are looking
for it and people come from all over.
Ms DiNunzio: I have clients come here from Jeffersonville.
Mr. Smith: Something to get your attention.
Mr. Oster: if an animal is sick they will find it in the phone
book.
Mr. Smith: A black and white neon to get your attention. They
have enough sense.
Ms DiNunzio: Its just to get your attention to the building.
Mr. Smith: Any questions from the Public? (no)
Mr. Smith: Any questions from the Board? (no)
Mr. Smith: I Move to close the Public Hearing at 9:05 pm; All
in favor; Motion carried.
Mr. Smith: I Move to grant the following variance: sign variance
of (249-11-N-1-a and 249-11-N-1) for 50 sq/ft sign; Seconded;
DISCUSSION:
None.
VOTE:
In favor (aye): 4
Opposed (nay): 1
DECISION:
Mr. Smith: Your variance has been granted; see the Building
Department.
MEETING CLOSE:
Mr. Smith: I Move to close the May 12th meeting at 9:14 pm;
Seconded; All in favor; Motion carried.
TSB:jcd
TOWN OF WALLKILL ZONING BOARD OF APPEAL
May 12, 2003
DECISION SHEET
WARWICK SAVINGS BANK
(Dominic Mazza) Applicant to reapply; withdrew presented application.
ANTHONY FINI Not present.
LEWIS SIGN CO
(Orange County Animal Emerg. Svcs) Request for a variance of
249-11-N-1 and 249-11-N-1-a(1) (sign) to 50 sq/ft; Property
located at 517 Rt 211 East
(SEC 41 BL 1 LOT 42.1); Designated HC.
DECISION: Variance granted.